This Suicide thing is Crazy and Sad , not sure why they don't seek Help

[Betallsports]

I had a family member go through it last year. It's just Horrible

How to get help: In the US, call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255. The International Association for Suicide Prevention and Befrienders Worldwide also can provide contact information for crisis centers around the world.

 

[Enfuego]

Not that easy.

 

[Betallsports]

Not that easy.

I know, what I went through last year I wouldn't wish on anyone. I just couldn't understand it, couldn't come up with an answer to why they would do something
like this when on the Outside everything looked fine.

 

[mrwho]

just had a cousin killed himself about 3 months ago..he was 33..left behind a young wife and kid and business. Invited his parents and siblings over the night before for dinner..his dad which is my uncle asked what was the occasion bc he really never did things like that. He told his parents he wanted to repay them for all the times he went to their house to eat and wanted to see everyone. Next morning hung himself in garage. Noone saw it coming at all and to this day, we're all still wondering. No notes left behind or anything. I used to think it is selfish to do that and leave everyone behind with the aftermath..i still think that to some degree but as i get older and see this happening more frequently, i have to say to myself is that the last thing they're thinking about is how selfish it will be or who will be hurt after. I think it's a disease in their head the moment they wake up and go about their lives that probably in their mind nothing can fix. I cant imagine the pain, anguish, regret or whatever feeling else you have to make you want to stop seeing what tomorrow brings but I cant judge anyone anymore if they do decide that fate.

 

[Enfuego]

I know, what I went through last year I wouldn't wish on anyone. I just couldn't understand it, couldn't come up with an answer to why they would do something
like this when on the Outside everything looked fine.

I don't get it either. I don't feel anxiety...never have. I don't understand it.

 

[skins85]

never understood it but was talking with a close friend of mine about it and he revealed he has battled depression for 15 years. i was shocked, one of the happiest and nicest guys i know. people can hide it very well but it definetely takes you to a dark place.

 

[PoundFoolish]

it's very sad and not trying to politicize it, but I would bet if there were a study done, liberal people commit suicide at a much higher rate I would be willing to bet because overall they are less happy people.

 

[Betallsports]

just had a cousin killed himself about 3 months ago..he was 33..left behind a young wife and kid and business. Invited his parents and siblings over the night before for dinner..his dad which is my uncle asked what was the occasion bc he really never did things like that. He told his parents he wanted to repay them for all the times he went to their house to eat and wanted to see everyone. Next morning hung himself in garage. Noone saw it coming at all and to this day, we're all still wondering. No notes left behind or anything. I used to think it is selfish to do that and leave everyone behind with the aftermath..i still think that to some degree but as i get older and see this happening more frequently, i have to say to myself is that the last thing they're thinking about is how selfish it will be or who will be hurt after. I think it's a disease in their head the moment they wake up and go about their lives that probably in their mind nothing can fix. I cant imagine the pain, anguish, regret or whatever feeling else you have to make you want to stop seeing what tomorrow brings but I cant judge anyone anymore if they do decide that fate.

See absolutely No warning signs. even though he did something out of the norm, you can't say to yourself, something is wrong, he needs help.
Very sad

 

[Betallsports]

never understood it but was talking with a close friend of mine about it and he revealed he has battled depression for 15 years. i was shocked, one of the happiest and nicest guys i know. people can hide it very well but it definetely takes you to a dark place.

also had a friend that took him life that was bipolar. also wouldn't be able to tell, took a lot of meds, had everything... tons of money, all the big boy toys
great to be around. But he stopped his meds and one day just hung himself.

I think we look at "Crazy" people as one day you will see his name on the News. But the ones that you need to worry about are the ones we don't know about.

 

[michael777]

I dated a bi polar woman for 3 years,broke up 2 years ago.90% of the time she was fine,they she would go into a deep depression,lay in bed for weeks,then go to a manic state,up for days,she also would get abusive,I did all i could for her,all kinds of doctors,different meds,counseling,I just had to give up as near the end i was actually afraid she might kill me even though i was nothing but nice to her

 

[C.P.]

Mike,

A close family just did this recently...

Did NOT see it coming...

you just NEVER know what DEMONS are HURTING people INSIDE....

SAD...

 

[Ladeda]

One of the biggest problems is that people who are really serious about committing suicide and have already decided to take their own life will do anything to hide their depression. So you have be super observant for warning signs, they will not be obvious but very subtle.

When the warning signs are obvious then chances are it's someone going thru depression who is having suicidal thoughts but are not really all that close to killing themselves. These type of warning signs are considered "cries for help." Some of these symptoms include talking about suicide, threatening it, blatantly giving away money, etc. It's still important to act to help these people but they aren't likely at that final stage.

When they reach the final stage they will be super descreet to prevent anyone from stepping in.

Like the guy in one of the examples above having a family dinner the night before. I'm sure if his family would have been accepting and supported his decision he would have told them and said his goodbye's but knowing that would never happen he had his dinner, I'm sure said goodbye in his own way and killed himself before anyone could stop him.

 

[DoublePlayBall]

I would like to see the stats on seniors (60 and over) that commit suicide. I think the knowledge for many of them is that how will they care for themselves at some point if A.they are single and or B. have no serious money for one of those around the clock care places.... That can take one to a very dark place. Isolation often feels safer than reaching out to peers that would not understand.

 

[Betallsports]

One of the biggest problems is that people who are really serious about committing suicide and have already decided to take their own life will do anything to hide their depression. So you have be super observant for warning signs, they will not be obvious but very subtle.

When the warning signs are obvious then chances are it's someone going thru depression who is having suicidal thoughts but are not really all that close to killing themselves. These type of warning signs are considered "cries for help." Some of these symptoms include talking about suicide, threatening it, blatantly giving away money, etc. It's still important to act to help these people but they aren't likely at that final stage.

When they reach the final stage they will be super descreet to prevent anyone from stepping in.

Like the guy in one of the examples above having a family dinner the night before. I'm sure if his family would have been accepting and supported his decision he would have told them and said his goodbye's but knowing that would never happen he had his dinner, I'm sure said goodbye in his own way and killed himself before anyone could stop him.

good info here

 

[kidman232]

dated a girl a few years back from work, we were off and on a few times, but never really for too long. She struggled with issues, told me her mom had tried to have her committed before etc. After we had separated, we still spoke on occasion. She started drinking more and partying a little harder. She got a dui and still seemed to be suffering from break ups etc. She ended up pulling over along a highway at night and stepped out in front of a semi truck and was killed. Alot of people thought it was an accident, that she had been drinking earlier that night, but knowing her background and some of our conversations leading up to that night, I always believe she took her own life.

 

[Enfuego]

dated a girl a few years back from work, we were off and on a few times, but never really for too long. She struggled with issues, told me her mom had tried to have her committed before etc. After we had separated, we still spoke on occasion. She started drinking more and partying a little harder. She got a dui and still seemed to be suffering from break ups etc. She ended up pulling over along a highway at night and stepped out in front of a semi truck and was killed. Alot of people thought it was an accident, that she had been drinking earlier that night, but knowing her background and some of our conversations leading up to that night, I always believe she took her own life.

I used to feel no empathy for people that commit suicide but I've changed my tune over the years. It would be terrible to feel so desperate that suicide is the only option in your mind. What a bad place to be.

But, in your ex-girlfriend's situation, what an absolute wicked bitch to take her own life and also put the guilt of dying into the hands of another human. That truck driver will always live with that moment. What a nightmare of a scenario.

 

[DoublePlayBall]

I fully believe in a person's right to die...But I think only Oregon (and not even sure there) doctor assisted suicide is allowed. When one has an illness and becomes dependent on others, life is no longer good.

 

[sunshine11]

Im not sure double play if it is in Oregon or not. I admit I take a few medicines for anxiety and depression. Also I have been reading about magnesium how good it helps people, just starting taking it last Friday and Vit D3 feel alot happier in just a week, laughed for the first time in years. Just dont take to much magnesium or you will be on the toilet all day. So start off slow like 300mg Im up to 1000mg a day and doing good.

 

[StevieRay]

I used to feel no empathy for people that commit suicide but I've changed my tune over the years. It would be terrible to feel so desperate that suicide is the only option in your mind. What a bad place to be.

But, in your ex-girlfriend's situation, what an absolute wicked bitch to take her own life and also put the guilt of dying into the hands of another human. That truck driver will always live with that moment. What a nightmare of a scenario.

Could send a text post from a 16 year friend of my daughter the wee hours of morn before she killed herself to my daughter and friends. One of the most gut wrenching things I have ever read. Haunted me for days

 

[DoublePlayBall]

Im not sure double play if it is in Oregon or not. I admit I take a few medicines for anxiety and depression. Also I have been reading about magnesium how good it helps people, just starting taking it last Friday and Vit D3 feel alot happier in just a week, laughed for the first time in years. Just dont take to much magnesium or you will be on the toilet all day. So start off slow like 300mg Im up to 1000mg a day and doing good.

Good Info! I knew Vit D3 is mainly to support bones and joints, but have never heard of Magnesium for general use.. Have to read up on that one. I have read that many people swear by vitamins.